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#1 Brent

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 09:42 PM

*Update June 16th, 2005*: You will definately need at least a 6800 or X800, 2Ghz processor, and 1 to 2 GB of ram according to Doug Lombardi as of June 16th, 2005. The specificiations are still being worked on. Also HDR will not be able to be removed from "The Lost Coast", but in future HDR releases such as Aftermath, it will be an option. The rest of this article is now pointless.

Nobody really knows what kind of PC you will need for the new Lost Coast level for Half-Life 2. "The Lost Coast" is Valve's premier level for the Source engine featuring the newly added HDR technologies. It's release date should be around summer time (around now more specifically) and it has been announced since February. Valve has only said you will need specific hardware to be able to download the expansion level, without providing any details.

Well I browsed the web looking around and found some sparse details, the most important of which is that the HDR implementation Valve has created uses the SM2/PS2 (Shader Model/Pixel Shader 2.0). This automatically includes most DirectX 9 graphics cards (>= Radeon 9500 and >= Nvidia 5200) but there are possibly more requirements. According to one source, you need at least a 2.0Ghz processor (sorry AMD users) and 512MB of system memory.

So there you have it, a speculation that you will need a mid-range computer to run "The Lost Coast" expansion by Valve for Source/Half-Life 2. Unlike FarCry which requires SM3/PS3 (Shader Model/Pixel Shader 3), only supported by Nvidia's newest cards.

Purely some researched speculation.

Sources:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/ - GPU Database very informative.
http://www.ati.com/ - Not much information about the shader models for the older cards.
http://www.halflifes...?threadid=35224 - The cpu/ram information, could be false.
http://www.bit-tech....2_hdr_overview/ - shader model information.
http://www.bit-tech..../15/valve_r520/

Edited by The PC Nerd, 17 June 2005 - 04:33 AM.

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#2 Darkside

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 10:40 PM

I've seen articles in which valve said it would require more along the lines of a 3ghz processor, and top of the line graphics cards.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Darkside @ Jun 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
I've seen articles in which valve said it would require more along the lines of a 3ghz processor, and top of the line graphics cards.

well im pretty sure from these sites it definately is SM2 based meaning most of those cards if not all of them will run it.
Ya, rly.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE(The PC Nerd @ Jun 14 2005, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE(Darkside @ Jun 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
I've seen articles in which valve said it would require more along the lines of a 3ghz processor, and top of the line graphics cards.

well im pretty sure from these sites it definately is SM2 based meaning most of those cards if not all of them will run it.


I hope you're right tongue.gif

I still won't be able to run it though. Didn't they also say you could play it anyway, without the HDR effects?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 12:04 AM

QUOTE(Darkside @ Jun 14 2005, 07:59 PM)
QUOTE(The PC Nerd @ Jun 14 2005, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE(Darkside @ Jun 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
I've seen articles in which valve said it would require more along the lines of a 3ghz processor, and top of the line graphics cards.

well im pretty sure from these sites it definately is SM2 based meaning most of those cards if not all of them will run it.


I hope you're right tongue.gif

I still won't be able to run it though. Didn't they also say you could play it anyway, without the HDR effects?

Absolutely not.
Ya, rly.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 12:11 AM

Well look at the requirements for HL2, its nothing big, my 2.4ghz vaio could play it with half the settings on max and run at 45-55 FPS. I doubt you will need a computer that strong just for an expansion. Why would the make the requirements higher for an expansion than the actual game? I am probably wrong though, my opinions are usually wrong.

Edited by SewerCow, 15 June 2005 - 12:22 AM.

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#7 Darkside

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 04:38 AM

Taken from http://pc.ign.com/ar...6/616578p1.html

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We talked with one of the Valve reps giving the presentation, and he said that although Lost Coast would require a pretty high-end system (3.2GHz CPU, 1GB RAM, 6800GT or X800 Pro, et cetera), the Aftermath expansion pack would allow the player to disable HDR and tweak the visuals as usual.


Also http://www.hlfallout...wnews.php/7905/

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 05:25 AM

QUOTE(Darkside @ Jun 15 2005, 12:38 AM)
Taken from http://pc.ign.com/ar...6/616578p1.html

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We talked with one of the Valve reps giving the presentation, and he said that although Lost Coast would require a pretty high-end system (3.2GHz CPU, 1GB RAM, 6800GT or X800 Pro, et cetera), the Aftermath expansion pack would allow the player to disable HDR and tweak the visuals as usual.


Also http://www.hlfallout...wnews.php/7905/

The disable HDR part is aftermath, we are talking about "The Lost Coast"

And the part about the 3.2Ghz there is a "High" and "Low" version of the level. Low needs a 2.0Ghz, 512MB ram, and DX9 card. I wrote the article on what was needed to run the level period, not the max.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:11 PM

Well I was still half right sleep.gif

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 02:51 PM

How big is this lost coast expansion gonna be, I read somewhere in that article that something is 4 gbs big. And what is this Aftermath thing.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 03:00 PM

How can you not know what Aftermath is? It'sthe first official HL2 expansion...

Lost Coast *would* have been around 5 gigs, if they had included some fancy stuff that they didn't.

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HDR would be partially implemented in HL2 in a future patch, but that they probably wouldn't completely overhaul the lighting for two reasons: one, it would require a download on the order of five gigabytes...


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Posted 15 June 2005 - 06:26 PM

Source?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 06:27 PM

So is valve coming out with 2 expansion, Lost Coast and Aftermath?
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 07:50 PM

Lost Coast is a single level to showcase the HDR implementation they are adding to source.

Aftermath is what happens immediately after hl2's story, and will be able to run with HDR.

and I severely doubt an HDR implementation would take 5gb. They would have found a way to compress the 3 versions of every texture.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE(BLACK^WOLF @ Jun 15 2005, 02:26 PM)
Source?


The article I posted earlier. http://pc.ign.com/ar...6/616578p1.html

I kind of trust what they say, seeing as how they were at E3 talking to valve and all.




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